Tuesday, January 09, 2007

Rock Bottom Bagel


Breakups are never easy. In my nearly 16 years of dating men of varied professions, religions and cultures, I'm still on the fence as to the most effective and least painful way to put the brakes on a relationship. You've got the 'rip-it-off like a band-aid' approach, the 'it's not you I'm just going through a tough time' approach and the 'I'm moving back to Indiana' bald-face lie approach.

They're all brutal and they're all a bit nauseating.

So I'll try something new—something I've perhaps picked up in the year and a half since moving to Harlem. It's direct. It's to the point. It's not always pleasant. So here's me letting fly—You ready?

I'm subletting my place in Harlem. I've left the neighborhood. I need a break.

It's no secret that I move around a lot and in a previous post I likened my relationship with Harlem to a love affair; noting that when it's good I'm high as a kite, but when it's bad I can’t breathe. But it was an event that actually knocked the wind out of me that was the straw that broke my bagel's back.

I can take a groping in Harlem but I've got no patience for a hitting in Harlem. It was a beautiful, sunny November afternoon and I was walking along East 125th Street when a man, obviously drunk and demanding 12-cents from passerby, approached me.

"Dude, sorry, I don't have 12 cents," I said to him trying to steer clear. But as I passed to the right of him, he took a large bag filled with recyclable cans and whacked me on my back so hard that I actually fell over.

I was dazed and in shock and mostly just angry. Really, really angry.

And my anger from that day began seeping into my every experience in Harlem. I was already having a difficult time letting the small annoyances roll off me—the cursing on the streets, the trash on the sidewalks and the lack of fresh bagel—had become bigger than the neighborhood itself.

And while I recognize that a good bagel whacking can perhaps happen anywhere in the city, this particular whack occurred just three blocks from my apartment. Afterwards, I could no longer see the forest from the trees. Harlem’s incredible history, architecture and residents all remained, but my day-to-day existence in the neighborhood had become increasingly stressful and I was no longer finding pleasure in my surroundings.

In truth, I’ve been agonizing for months over the question of whether Harlem is the right place for me. So I’m taking a break. My furniture is in Harlem. My bagel is south of Houston Street. And my blog? Well, we’ll see. Like any relationship, it can veer off track for a bit. For now, as news of a bagel dearth spreads in our fair city, I plan to continue my quest for the dough with a hole and see where the search takes me. Keep me posted and I promise to do the same.

53 Comments:

Blogger Harlem Purl said...

I'm sorry to hear about your disparaging situations. I've lived in East Harlem my whole life (all of 28 years) and I can't imagine what I'd do if those things happened to me. Ive prolly had experiences similar to yours but never on that level.

I love my neighborhood and I couldn't imagine living anywhere else. When I finally moved out on my own, I only moved two blocks away. I'm rambling here , but I just wanted to wish you the best and let you know that East Harlem is really not as bad as it may seem right now.

Chante

8:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Say it isnt so! now my Brownstone will plummet in price since you are leaving!.....Oh well....sorry to see you go.......Come back in five years and you won't recognize the place......good luck little bagel.......

8:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

125th is a dump. C'mon up to James Brown Blvd (145th).

4:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry about your ordeal Bagel ... but honestly, no matter where you move in the city you are going to find that more people like him are popping up here and there and I think it's a direct reflection on the Guiliani/Bloomberg transfer. My advice is not to let that sublet go becuase it's only momentary. Harlem is Harlem. Love it or leave it.

9:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we'll miss you bagel. but i have to question why you'd think the actions of one drunk/crazy/homeless man as a reflection of an entire neighborhood. you've got to ask yourself, if that happened on avenue B would you flee the east village? (talk about cursing and garbage...ever lived there?)

then again, it's your life, and only you know what's right for you. but how can you be mad at an entire neighborhood because of one horrible action of one insane person?

people look to you as some kind of guage as to what it's like to live in harlem...and i dont know that this incident and your reaction (overreaction?) to it is a fair reflection.

maybe as someone who owns in harlem i have a deeper emotional investment in the neighborhood.

best of luck to you no matter what you do. i'll miss your fun insites into my home 'hood.

10:30 AM  
Blogger DrunkBrunch said...

Hopefully that one incident won't shade all your memories of Harlem. I lived in Central Harlem for a couple years and will always remember it fondly: the big apartment, a congenial neighborhood and neighbors who gave me wonderful oral histories.

From one Indiana girl to another, best of luck!

10:51 AM  
Blogger Uptown Mom said...

Bagel, I JUST found your site a few days ago, and you inspired me to start my own Harlem blog. Not as good as yours. I have felt your pain on the bagel front, although I live close enough to Absolute Bagels (and the UWS generally) that the absence of bagels in my immediate 'hood has not been quite such an issue for us.

I won't tell you that you shouldn't feel the way you do -- as for the decision to move, you're a confessed serial mover, so what should I expect? -- because I'm sure you already know that could in theory have happened anywhere. By far most people I know who've been assaulted had it happen elsewhere. But what you feel is what you feel -- and much as I wish it were otherwise, I know from tracking crime stats that your odds of being a crime victim really are higher here, and they're quickly getting still higher (please, NYC, wake up and take better care of us!!!).

Take care, be safe, and I STILL hope you'll decide to return!

1:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I totally don't blame Bagel. Get the hell out. You'll start to realize that the only people living "safely and comfortably" in bad areas are the ultra rich. They have personal black town cars to take them from their penthouse to work in midtown. The never touch the pavement except within in vicinity of the doorman. Good luck Bagel!

4:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bagel baby, don't give up. As a native Manhattanite new to Harlem, I understand your frustration, but you can empower yourself in ways that so many of the young kids in Harlem can't. There are so many ways to get involved and make it a "nicer" community. Go to Community Board meetings, volunteer at nonprofit organizations. I'm ready to start an anti-litter campaign myself.

Hopefully, many of the other comments will help you see that one bad incident isn't worth giving up on an area with so much budding potential of community development.
When my mom was mugged and raped in our old hood (Gramercy) in the 80s, we didn't move - because we knew it was just one bad egg. We believed in the neighborhood and fortunately nothing like that ever occurred again. As one Jewish girl to another - someone will open a bagel place soon, I promise, and the hood will be a whole new experience.

4:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

honestly, for those people who move to Harlem, they know their kids are going to fight with (in fact being beaten up by) animals in local schools and streets every day

well, it's a different story if these new comers are tough enough that they themselves are some kind of dealers, carrying guns 24 hours, etc. then their kids will be a lot safer and raise well in harlem

5:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Waa Waa Waa

Grow the Fuck Up Lady, this ain't Kansas.

5:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello? you live in Harlem! What do you expect? Black people live there. The only way to not get mugged in this city is to piss your pants and smear shit all over your body. No mugger will go near you.

5:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I used to work right near East 125th st... for about 9 months, until I realized exactly why is was the worst 9 months of my life.

There are countless reasons why it was unpleasant. Things ran the gamut from there being no decent place to get lunch, all the way to racially fueled ranting aimed at me because I'm white.

6:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I used to work right near East 125th st... for about 9 months, until I realized exactly why it was the worst 9 months of my life.

There are countless reasons why it was unpleasant. Things ran the gamut from there being no decent place to get lunch, all the way to racially fueled ranting aimed at me because I'm white.

6:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should not be insisting on looking for things in Harlem that aren't part of its personality in the first place. If the neighborhood doesn't offer you what you want, you're in the wrong neighborhood. I lived in Paris for 15 years, but I didn't move to Harlem and look around for croissants and espresso. I embraced the 75 cent coffee.

My neighborhood (Harlem, on the west side), offers: a cheap and clean diner, a decent chinese take-out, no friggin' Starbucks, a 24-hour deli, three good hardware stores, and plenty of 99 cents stores. Throw in my beautiful (if not slightly run-down) apartment with room for working, and a working class population that doesn't offend me with Prada clothing and Marc Jacobs bags that cost more than a few months of my rent, and I'm in love. What would I go looking for a bagel store here for? That's what the UWS is for!

Sure, there are crackheads and lowlifes in my neighborhood, in particular the one-legged bum that pees in our elevator, and lots of shifty men lurking in the streets, but I find that stepping outside with an expression on my face that makes me look like I just missed out on killing someone and would be happy to kill and dice the next person to come within five feet of me, helps a lot.

Maybe you just look too vulnerable. Maybe you belong in the LES, or CPW? Maybe you're not the type to pionneer a neighborhood? NYC is not Disneyworld -- it's not here for your pleasure. You don't move to Harlem (or to NY, for that matter) to just absorb the inspiring moments. You live here because you have to.

7:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with 4:47 - if you want your neighborhood to change, you've got to work with it to make it happen. I hope there's more people out there who believe they can effect change by volunteering, nuturing relationships, and supporting the efforts to get the drugs and crime out of Harlem for good. We've been talking about the Harlem Renaissance for years... it's about time people stop talking and start acting. Bagel - don't feel bad about leaving. Just remember, when you find the place that's right for you, you've got to give back to the community what it gives to you.

11:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Black people live there?!!!" Bagel: this is your ilk. Return to them. Hurry. Perhaps your leaving and newly chatting about stupid things like the relative chewiness of Bagel Store X v. Y's offerings will minimize the type of raced assaults that splatter here in cyberspace when poseurs like you decide to "slum" to get your street cred (and entertain your awe-struck, sympathic pasty pals who titter with concern over organically harvested hummus or cruelty-free soy shakes and would never DREAM of being so "brave"). LEAVE, ALREADY.

8:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I grew up in New York, left in the early 90's, and just recently moved back. No offense Bagel, but you seem to have an idealized notion of the city. The fact you were able to live as long as you did in Harlem is a testament to just how far the neighborhood has come in terms of safety and liveability.

You can move downtown if you want to. You'll probably be a little less likely to be assaulted by a wino, but not by much. Drunken crazy people are surprisingly mobile, and have a knack for showing up all over Manhattan. That's why I think you need to give the neighborhood a little bit of a break.

10:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please, please go back to Nebraska and stop ruining our town. Hope you're not hurt and everything but people like you are ruining this once great city. Good luck. Thanks!

See what others are saying below:

http://www.curbed.com/archives/2007/01/10/bagel_leaves_harlem.php

11:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the fact that middle class rich animals moving back in harlem even ruin the future of harlem, it's worse now for harlem

11:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You seem like a sweet girl. Keep ya head up.

12:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sux this incident happened. But if it happened somewhere in soho or les would you be so quick to leave that neighborhood, or would it just be a cute story you tell about living in a "gritty" new york neighborhood?

12:53 PM  
Blogger Elderta said...

So sorry, Bagel, that this happened to you. I'm going to miss your posts from Harlem, and sorry we never got to go bowling at Harlem Lanes. I really enjoyed meeting you at the Den. I hope things are better for you in the new nabe.

Personally, I would have gone insane if some guy with a bag of recycling hit me like that. But then again, I'm from inner city Detroit, and that shit would have seen me behaving like a mad woman. I hope you weren't hurt physically and that emotionally, you won't hold it against all of Harlem, which I know you won't.

I've really appreciated your insight about Harlem, and unlike some people, you were willing to forego whatever preconceptions we all carry about places and to at least try. Some of the people who have been commenting at Curbed and Gothamist are just evil, pay no attention to them, as they are just spreading the hate.

Please keep in touch and I look forward to a new blog from you!

3:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's the difference between people who know the city and people who don't: If I had seen that guy, I would have gotten out of his way. Period. Not because he was black, not because he was homeless, but because it was hassle in my path and here, you need to have the radar to GET OUT OF THE WAY OF THE HASSLE.

End.

Here's another example, with the groping incident: a bagel costs less than a dollar - or maybe just over a dollar. Someone grabs my ass, I'm going to whirl around, glare at them and get the fuck out of there. End. not wait for my bagel. not stand there and argue with them. this wasn't a subway groping, which happens every single fucking day and you can't move and can't do anything about it - you were in a store! leave!

the thing that kills me is that, once upon a time, below houston was taking your life into your own hands. and suddenly everyone thinks it's disneyland, and it's not. this only gets remembered when a white girl gets shot.

this is new york. not a blog post, not a social experiment. this is real life. it has jagged edges and isn't a tv script. every reason you had a problem in harlem is laid out in your post about the bagel store.

2:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well...

As a neighbor of yours (we have never met) I am sad to hear you give up on the block. All I can say is what you and the others have said here.

I would rather take back the block, and continue the dream than give into our block being any worse than any other in the city.

As far as 125th Street goes - Harlem Park is (hopefully) around the corner, along with the 125th street development plan. I feel the police and city allow significantly more homeless to live up here than mid-town where I work, but that is something that will improve with a community board, etc., as 4:47 has said.

Either way, good luck.

11:28 AM  
Blogger MartiniCocoa said...

Can you imagine what the world would be like if MLK, Jr let a drunk or mean a**hole shoving him force him to give up his goals?

7:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just linked to your blog. :( I have to say I am a bit disappointed by your leaving because of this incident. Besides looking for a bagel, and writing in this blog, what did you do to improve the neighborhood you lived in? Did you volunteer somewhere, join the community board, the block association? If so, that is great and you should stick with it. If not, therein lies the reason why your block isn't better.

Instead of being an observer and waiting for Mr. Gentrification to open a bagel store in Harlem, why not pitch in in trying to make Harlem better?

Seriously, I have been here for 2 years and it was an adjustment, but by volunteering and participating in neighborhood groups I have come to know my neighbors better and we are working together to slowly improve not only this neighborhood but our beloved city as a whole.

Good luck downtown. For me, nothing is more convenient than Harlem. Easy into the city, easy out of the city, history, literature, jazz and some of the most amazing architecture in NY.

11:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey bagel, sorry to hear you go... it was always comforting to know there's another hoosier here in harlem. truth be told, though, i've been planning to leave for the last seven months, just as soon as my condo is finished.

my girlfriend and i were walking in front of Lenox Lounge last weekend when a guy with a big dog ordered it to jump on me for his amusement. she has never liked the attention she got from the men in harlem, such as the guys who have followed her to my place, and we'll both be happy to leave.

Harlem isn't a safe place for a white woman, and I'm not going to comprimise my gf's safety by asking her to come here anymore.

11:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I second what Anon 10:01 said. If it took this long for you to have a negative experience like that, then Harlem has come a long way.

But NY isn't Indiana.. I think you'll find that the LES has its share of aggressive bums too. I suggest you call a Cop or hit him back next time - otherwise, you'll be moving alot in this town..

1:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry you had that bad experience - there is always somewhere better to live - hopefully the next place treats you better

11:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anon 11:59...
did the dog actually jump on you/attack you? has your girlfriend ever actually been attacked by any of the many men who have "followed" her home? im not sure if your safety is actually being compromised, or if you're just feeling unsafe. maybe you just assume a certain level of menace, because maybe on some subcouncious level you assume black people are dangerous.

as it doesnt sound like you've actually been the victom of any kind of crime, im not sure who it's unsafe...except in your mind.

11:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting how you start off the piece with a rumination on honesty, then indicate that you lied to a beggar by stating that you didn't have 12 cents, then received a duly karmic repproach for the lack of candor. Fascinating!
I lived on 120 and 5th from 93-94.

11:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny, I got clocked about 12 years ago on 6th ave. at 48th street by an indigent holding a bottle in his hand. Maybe it was the same dude! Perhaps he knows how to take the subway! What a concept!

1:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry to see you go neighbor. Haven't seen you since your b-day at the Den but we've been living problem-free a block away from you and are going to start a family this year. I don't care what some ignorant insignificant trash might do or say. It's my home and I won't leave till I'm good and ready. I guess it's easier to move to soho than to wait for change but changes are happening in a big way up here and I'm happy to be part of it.

Best of luck to you but I hope you reconsider and come back to where you once called home.

3:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since when do we engage drunken bums in conversation? Not saying you deserve what happened but use your head. Don't acknowledge someone like that. Put your head down, ignore them, and go about your business. They then beg the next passerby and life goes on. That's how it works in this city.. always has. Just some advice, don't discuss your finances with drunken beggars.

5:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually I find that a heartfelt "sorry" mumbled with my head down usually does the job. I suspect it was her tone. Either that or the guy was just crazy. Gee, wonder which it was? Let's see, homeless, collects cans and bottles, likely mentally ill and not being treated. Gee, can't seem to figure this one out.

1:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bagel, my wife and I think you did the right thing.

We're giving this place one more year. We've got one more addition to our family coming in July. But next February, rest assured, we're out of here too.

You're in our prayers, take care!

8:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we are leaving harlem too. granted it is because we need a two bedroom for the baby, but our street, a nice one, has changed since one brownstone's atmosphere has changed - we think there is something illegal going on - be it crack, ho's, or dogfighting we are not sure - but since the change in the brownstone - there has been yelling up to 104 (ever hear of a doorbell?), two muggings in front of our buildin (actually in front of the door) - i really love this neighborhood, and i am glad that my daughter spent the majority of her first year in harlem, but things have changed in our almost 4 years of being here - and not for the better.

11:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you somehow not allowed to blog anymore, just because you're moving? What's up with the updates?

6:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I lived in Harlem and I received a wack of sorts and it sent me on my merry little way. I don't really feel any safer where I am now. NY is a rough place. Period. I have been robbed, molested, and shoved many times. Perhaps I should leave NY entirely. Sometimes it is just time to move on and not question it too much. Everything happens for a reason.

1:48 PM  
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4:27 PM  
Blogger Brookline Homeschool Year said...

Wow bagel, I just found your blog today and now you are gone! Poof just like that! I am sorry to hear about your experience. I have only lived in East Harlem for six years. I have moved two or three times with in a four block radius. Sometimes this place can be “buck wild” as my boyfriend likes to say. He lived in Long Island City and Fort Greene before moving in with me. He has serious reservations about this community. Regardless of the pros and cons of being an East Harlem resident…home is where the heart is. Have faith you will find what’s right for you and take time to heal.

4:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reason that Harlem sucks is that people accept the quality-of-life slights, big and small, that are supposedly part of the unique "character" of the neighborhood. Instead of calling it out for what it is, the message from the idiots is, "if poor little white girl can't hack it, too back, you had no business here anyway, and go back to your flat flyover home-state."

I say BULLSHIT! Anyone who's willing to put up with groping, verbal assaults, one-legged bums peeing in their elevator, young assholes "wildin' out" around the 'hood, etc. is either too broke to move (I feel for you), or has money but is just plain stupid! That type of stuff doesn't happen with such frequency in good neighborhoods, no matter how much the apologists insist that this stuff can happen anywhere.

The only reason I can see for dealing with the crap is that you've bought property and have a vested interest in seeing the place change. In that case, stand your ground and fight, and all the power to you! Otherwise, run, run, run for the land of the lattes. I don't blame you.

Life is tough and stressful enough as it is. Who wants to compound the difficulty by exposing yourself to a daily dose of anti-social behavior?

Hey Bagel: best of luck.

6:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spread the gospel!!! Welcome to Harlem, when long time tenants roughed t through the years when no one wanted to be here, you experienced one aspect of Hearlem-really NYC. Be alert and sharp. High unemployment, race relaions, predetory lending, developers or slumlords. Those like you who trumpet the "new land" -Harlem as a new and undiscovered place(like no one lives there-sounds familiar? -european conquest/discovery of the new world)hopefully will slow down the spread of the virus known as 'hipsters in Harlem". Get your weight up if you plan to stay uptown.Be around when Kingdome lets out and see a sea of thousands of black kids who will not be able to afford to live where they were born in a few months!!! Ask their parents and relatives if they are able to find work. Ask their brothers ansd sisters if they can find a job after graduating college in NY-no daddys trust fund or parents support while Amy and Tad "finds themselves" in the Peace Corps.

1:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice to see that you've unblocked your blog again and left the last few posts out, thereby rewriting history. I guess the reality of the last few months embarrassed you.

Its also telling to see that you've deleted all the comments that lambaste you for being such a carpetbagging coward.

Do all the Harlem pioneers a favor and drive to LaGuardia. Then catch a one-way flight back to Nebraska.

12:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, this blog, but more importantly, the comments that follow each post have been a huge eye opener that had me laughing at times and angry the next.

It seems to me that most people on this post, mostly white and some black, seem to believe in the American myth of "pulling oneself up by their bootstrap" and don't realize that racism and classicism are alive and well in America and form the very fabric of our culture still and inform every detail of our daily lives, especially HOUSING and choices about where and how a person can live.

More importantly, many white people on this post do not seem to realize or know what White Skin Privilege (Affirmative ACtion for White People) is or how it operates in this country. The uncomfortableness that many of you have felt by being the few among many is a daily fact of existence for most black people in this country. I'm not sorry for you that you are experiencing this because it's not the end of the world and you need to know what that feels like in order to bring about positive change that benefits ALL people in this neighborhood.

Long time black residents in Harlem are angry because for decades, due to racism and classicism, they HAD to live in Harlem because of de facto racism and classicism. I know of many middle to upper-class black people who tell stories of trying to buy a condos in the Upper West Side, or Park Avenue in the 80s and 90s, and being told that "there was no space available" upon the condo boards meeting them face to face. Let's not even talk about the Suburbs. Furthermore, there was a time when the only white face you saw in Harlem was someone collecting a bill of some sort, or more frequently, looking to buy drugs and black prostitutes.

Other than that, White people demonized Harlem and the residents who lived there, despite the grassroots community associations and block associations and neighborhood watches that had been going on for years. Now it seems it's okay to move to HArlem, NOT because of the lower crime rate (which isn't true) , but because everyone knows, even if subconciously, that within the decade, Harlem will be much whiter and therefore deemed a good neighborhood.

Not every black person living in Harlem wanted to live through the Crack Epidemic, and dilapidated buildings, but we did because many HAD to for a host of reasons, namely economics. The city did not good a great job, much less a good job, of letting the average Harlem resident know that they could buy a brownstone in the 80s at near give away prices. And given the high unemployment and poverty level wages at the time, how many of them could really afford to buy it? The black middle and upper class who COULD have afforded it abandoned their neighborhoods for the "safer suburbs"

Black people are angry because for decades, we have had to deal with daily police brutality, or having the cops take 45 minute to show up when someone broke into your apartment, or someone was shot or mugged. Now, to utter amazement, there is a cop or two on EVERY corner in central harlem, and cops show up in a blink of an eye to a call about a mugging. The police harrasment and brutality of black men, sadly and not surprisingly has not changed.

Contrary to popular belief, many of the so-called abandoned buildings of the 80s and 90s were owned by mostly white real estate types who sat on their property, never developing it-until the real estate boom that began in the 90s and continues to today.

I am a college educated, "upwordly mobile" Black 24 Harlem native who can no longer afford to live in the neighborhood that she grew up in. I am very angry and sad about that and have every right to feel that way. Unlike what others have said about being priced out of other Manhattan neighborhoods, many of my White friends and peers can still afford to live in the neighborhoods they grew up in (UWS, LES, Park Slope) because of the money their parents give them and/or trust funds.

I am also very aware that my class status will probably make me a gentrifier in another neighborhood, and it sucks because gentrification is not.

Don't get it twisted, I want more restaurants and clubs and bars in my neighborhood so I don't feel compelled to go to the LES or Brooklyn for a good time, but the changes in Harlem are not being made with long-time residents like me in mind, but those who can afford $500 dollar strollers, black nannies and trips to the Hamptons and such places like that.

I'm not the one to do a "woe is me" racism and classicism has EVERYTHING to do with peoples feelings about the changes happening in Harlem and new residents interactions. From what I see, many new Harlem residents still seem to want nothing to do with their black neighbors who are not as well off as them. A whole host of races are moving into this country, but because of the history of race and racism between black people and white people, white people are more visible and black/white relations are talked about more. You need to read more about America's history if you can't understand why this is. An amazingly intelligent man who does a good job of breaking it down is Time Wise and his book, "White Like Me: Reflections on Race from a Privileged Son".

Just my 2 cents. I look forward to what others have to say.

4:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well I definitely feel for you. Who's that talking about go back to Nebraska? Don't be retarded.

3:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just found this blog. Thanks so much for your comments. I do have a major issue with one. "...What do you expect. Black people live there...." (5:48 pm) That is the most ignorant crap I have EVER read on a blog. If you haven't noticed, Harlem is not so black anymore; white people live here too. Safety is safety…not race specific safety. See comment at 11:59 pm where someone thinks Harlem isn’t safe for white women. So, only white women are targets for crime? Additionally...are we really talking about getting fresh bagels here or did I miss the joke? How about you support the local black businesses. I love it here and would like to see more long time residents own in this neighborhood rather than naive young women complain. So I say, get a straw and suck it up lady. I give props to nydiva (4:17 pm) for speaking the truth.

7:52 PM  
Blogger Johnny Celestin said...

For those of you staying behind...we are opening a new cafe and bakery on the corner of 131st and Lenox called La Perle Noire (The Black Pearl) because that's how we see Harlem.

You can't listen to the news without hearing about some crazy sh*t going down somewhere and Harlem is certainly no different. And to get upset over a crazy person is even, well...crazier.

Personally, in the years since I've moved from west Harlem to central I have found a community of people who've welcomed my family (yes, I am black but not sure it's relevant to point that out) and this new place/business, we hope, will add to that community and offer a space where people from all walk of life can come and relax.

We are scheduled to open in a few weeks and hope to see you for some great bread, coffee and maybe a sandwich and salad at lunch.

I will certainly let y'all know of our grand opening.

Johnny

8:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

good riddance

8:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is unfortunate to see you go. I just found the blog tonite. Oh well!

I hope would you change your mind. www.HarlemJews.org

9:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good riddance!

9:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so much jealousy on this post, bagel!

1:09 PM  

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